after spending my lunch break chatting with some born again christians who were street witnessing in my area, they suggested i read this book.
they said it would answer all the criticisms i highlighted in the bible.
has anyone read it?
ah - that was actually last weekend. Believe it or not City won 4-1. It's Fulham away this weekend.
I was thinking there are also a few good books on the Dead Sea Scrolls. These give a good account of the history and politics in Palestine around the time of Jesus. Look for authors like Vanderkam, Eisenman, Baigent and Leigh.
after spending my lunch break chatting with some born again christians who were street witnessing in my area, they suggested i read this book.
they said it would answer all the criticisms i highlighted in the bible.
has anyone read it?
Hi yxI1.
Here are a few books I've read and can recommend.
The Bible Unearthed (Israel Finkelstein and Neil Silberman) - Uses archaeology to show that the bible was a product of later authors and redactors rather than historical facts.
Who wrote the bible - Richard Friedman. Uses the language of the bible to show how it was produced.
These books are a relatively easy read compared to others I have on these subjects.
does this make you think of looking at the pictures in all of the publications?
images from this guy make me think of the witnesses.
i'm just wondering if anyone else gets the same weird feeling when they look at this.. http://www.chayan.com/phototheque/chutes/chu_003.htm
Gumby
BBC's Horizon programme "Wave of Destruction" talked about this giant tsunami. If the Canarian island of La Palma fell into the Atlantic then the East Coast of the US would disappear. Here's the link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2000/mega_tsunami.shtml
It could be thousands of years before it happens though.
that's right....recommend a book...any book that would be a good read....... mine's is:.
invisible man by ralph ellison
Have to recommend -
The Saga of the Exiles by Julian May - 4 books which are:
The Many Colored Land, The Golden Torc, The Non-Born King, The Adversary.
Plus anything by Deepak Chopra
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been studying this for a while i think this is a good leverage point if theirs anything written.. ive checked usual spots gtr, babylon the great, insight, any help much appreciated.
Hey JC
Yet he (Herodotus) claims that Nabonidus was the king of Babylon who mediated the agreement.
This is the direct quote from Herodotus 1.74 "Syennesis of Cilicia, and Labynetus of Babylon, were the persons who mediated between the parties, who hastened the taking of the oaths, and brought about the exchange of espousals."
Where in this passage does Herodotus call Labynetus the King of babylon? He is called King of Babylon later on in the Histories but only after Cyrus has 'captured' Astyages in 550 BCE. When the battle of the eclipse occurred in 585 BCE Nebuchadnezzar was King of Babylon and Nabonidus was one of his generals who was later to succeed to the throne.
You then say:
you have to deal with the possibility of a conspiracy to revise this history and that Herodotus was in on it.
You do but I don't. I'm not going to base anything on possible conspiracies throughout history by every scribe, priest and historian to rewrite history for some unknown purpose.
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been studying this for a while i think this is a good leverage point if theirs anything written.. ive checked usual spots gtr, babylon the great, insight, any help much appreciated.
ellderwho,
or you can backtrack from 539 BCE using the lengths of reigns given by the society to get to 604 BCE for Nebuchadnezzar's first year. There was an excellent thread by Alleymom a while back on this subject.
is anyone here a james bond fan?
if so, who was your favourite character?
mine was sheriff jw pepper.. "what are you, some kind of domesday machine boy?
I was recently given all the Bond Themes on CD as a present. Fave themes are 'Nobody does it better', 'Live and Let Die' and 'View to a Kill'. I think the most recent Bond tunes have been rubbish esp Madonna's.
Love the bit in Spy who Loved Me when Roger Moore is about to leave a lady all alone after doing the you know what. She says "But James, I need you". Roger replies "So does England".
I think that's my favourite Bond film although Connery is my fave Bond.
newcastle winning champions league (part 1) in partizan belgrade.
s*********d (no swearing) scraping through league cup 1 against the mighty mansfield.
man city preparing (by default) to pay total network solutions in the uefa cup.
Dansk
When Utd signed Tim Howard I heard that they had signed someone who due to some 'syndrome' was prone to violent outburst & shaking fits. But you already have Roy Keane!
Fergie has seen sense & finally parted with Juan Sebastian Veron to the only team who would buy him. The team with more money than sense. Do you remember Malcolm Allison going crazy with money about 1980 ? He bought anybody who could run & ruined City's finances for years.
I'm really looking forward to the derby games this year - I don't think Bosvelt is the most popular player with United fans.
Anyway tonight sees Manchester City play the might of Total Network Solutions. Should I be nervous?
i wanted to post this as an alternative explanation for the nazareth/nazarene description of the christian savior.
here before i posted another possible explanation for the word that involved galilean dialect and possible confusion between the words nazarite and nazareth by the authors of matthew and luke.
the following possible explanation seems to have merit and is held by many scholars as the most probable reason the for the gospel reference to nazareth/nazarene when (to all available evidence) the city did not exist in the first century.
I'll look forward to your post.
I've been reading much about the history of the Jews under Roman occupation and have come to the conclusion that most of these sects including the Nazarenes, the Essenes and the Sicarii or Zealots were very much united in their hatred of the high priest Ananas and the Roman backed Pharisees. It was this background of unrest that eventually led to the destruction of the Jerusalem temple by the Romans. Early Christian historian Eusebius contends that the death of James the brother of Jesus at the hands of the Pharisees was a major cause of the Jewish revolt against Rome.
Links between the Nazarenes and the Essenes can be further seen from the account of Stephen. The language he uses is very much the same as that found in scrolls at Qumran. Also when he quotes the book of Exodus at Acts 7:14 he does so from the Qumran scrolls.
i saw my niece last night and she told my wife, daughter and me that since she's been reinstated, she's only gone to a few meetings and part of a special assembly day.
she complained how everyone still avoids her and how people just aren't nice in the "truth".
she's totally bored at the meetings and doesn't want to go out in service ever again.
I think the vast majority of young ones who still attend these days do so for two reasons, to make their parents happy and to keep in contact with their JW circle of friends. I think the deep convictions and beliefs that witnesses once had are fast disappearing. 40 years ago people went because they truly believed it was the 'truth'. From what I've seen recently it's getting more and more a matter of token attendance to keep parents happy.
